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Farmer
Oh man, you guys got me all inspired

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Soldier
Guys, just letting you know i've read all of what you've wrote!
especially XR146 and Terkoiz, you guys really sort of gave me a boost of motivation.
I'm now working on my Dojo Duel due to reading all of your posts :P
Thanks alot guys!

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Soldier
So, i've been thinking this evening about your little rant and somewhere I get it. I do get that you think Stick figures achieve nothing. But does achieving gold III in league of legend anything? Not really.

Animating sticks does learn you principles about how stuff works around you. And you learn other things around it like drawing backgrounds, doing storyboards, writing scripts. Now recently I have been stepping a little bit away from sticks as well. I am exploring other things too last months but I do think making these animations kept sparking up my creativity. So I am learning and I am progressing.

I have made a few bucks of this and that animation and ad revenue is here and there but it isnt much indeed. But I feel that's just how it is as an animator. Ill probably never get a whole living off it so I try to explore more now. Maybe you'll see me do an claymation in the future or a whiteboard animation. But i think its important to keep improving in any way. Money comes later.

Or just stick hentai on xHamster. That's some trending shit mate.

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Soldier
I can personally care less about revenue.

I'm making a story-based series as we speak, because I want to put inspiration in others.

Either that or they can sit back and just say, "You know what, that was something different. But it was cool!"

It's not just animation either, all content creators start from ground-up.

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Samurai
@Poppetje3D animated / drawn porn makes some good dollar$$$

just gotta sell ur soul and be willing to make furry gay shit as well

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Soldier
You know you've said something interesting when 2 people from the in-house staff leave walls on your post.

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Villager
i used to animate because I wanted to recreate top stick in the image of a normal stick figure. Now i animate because i love it. Im not saying your wrong, because no one cares about stick figures anymore. as long as I'm entertaining somebody I'm good.

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Villager
I'm glad this post is bringing up some thoughts about what most artists would go through alone; typically their fulfillment with themselves and the feelings of whether or not animation is even worth it anymore because I also feel almost exactly the same everyday. It's funny that this is a topic shared just recently because I had a conversation with my sister about this similar mindset of feeling scared about wasting time on a craft that may never mean anything or be anything for anyone. My ambition for animation intimidates my confidence which makes me not want to continue or at least feel unconfident about what I'm doing as an artist. My dream is to eventually become my own artist who is able to produce a certain aesthetic that will be appreciated enough so I am able to make a living doing what I enjoy. It's very broad, but I have more aspects to this ambition.


My reason
I've always wanted to be an animator since age 5 because of the cartoons and videos games I loved growing up. When I heard that it was possible to make a living out of it I knew that it was something I could only dream of doing. So I began training myself and learning more about what makes an animator an animator. That is my way of getting the reasons for why I am still trying to pursue my ambitions even though I was only a kid who had nothing to worry about. So why do I continue even though I realize how much effort it takes for me to end up with nothing I wanted in the end? If I plan on making a living out of it, why continue if you see nothing happening besides the little appreciation from society and satisfaction of making something you've always wanted? Today I can't exactly answer those questions 100% because I still have doubts about myself ever getting anywhere in the industry, but there are times I get this rush of inspiration about how much time I have in my life and what I feel is worth spending that time with. If I were on my deathbed, I would regret never bringing my creations to life after wasting so much time of focusing on my skills. I look back at my old creations at times to remind myself how far I've come and how close I am to getting where I need to be except it never really ends. Even if I was successful, I still have to work hard to keep myself relevant and in progress. I take animation as a way to keep me focused on something productive and something that will bring inspiration to others if they have the urge to give up. It has also helped me express my emotions from depression and truly helped me cope with feeling hopeless and I hope to make others feel that same satisfaction from my art. I also distract those negative thoughts about animation being useless by creating a set plan that will inevitably lead me to both improve in my art and recognition. That's only MY reason to continue animating as of now though.


In terms of your thoughts about sticks is that you feel like the progress means nothing if there is no guarantee of benefits from something you worked so hard on. I'll give you this perspective; I have been animating for about 5 years now and it all started with stick figures. My ambitions were more towards eventually doing full body, but I feel my progress in animating fullbody has heavily been influenced by stick figure animations 100%. Today I've been noticing some friends breaking into the animation industry who started out animating stick figures and that alone should give you hope about how you're spending your time. It goes to show if you're determined enough, you will eventually get to a point where skill won't be too much of an issue, but building that portfolio and making things correlated to what studio you're going for etc. So far I am able to get paid once in a while from different people who commission work from me, but I am still working hard to get to the next step. In all think of animation as taking a flight of stairs to that destination you have no knowledge of, but regardless of that result will lead you to be a stranger animator. If you're worried about payment still, then try to see if it's something you want to really take seriously because in my opinion, animation will pay depending on how committed you are to it just like any other career. “You can fail at what you don't want, so you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.” Jim carrey. So just find exactly what you want to be and fail to get up. I have been rejected various times, but I'm still getting better by each moment I push myself again.


God, hopefully this isn't too much and I may have ranted myself a bit, but my intentions are to give advice from all artists who weren't at their spot of success. If they can pursue a career in art, so can you because we are all human. Hopefully this helps a smudge.

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Soldier
Well in this matter, i couldnt really say much considering its only been 8 months since ive started doing animations, if it makes you feel more comfortable, i dont do animation just for me, i do it try and revive the animation community, some sort of goal to myself ya know? That in mu perspective, every once in a while, a person steps in with incredible animation skills and revives a whole community, and to be that person is mygoal, my passion....my ambition.

"... Our fight only consists of 1 event, that I will reach your level....After that? I'm gonna be 1 level higher..."
~Vercreek~

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Farmer
wow, this was crazy. And I do respect your opinion (and kinda rant) about all this. And i also have answered why I animate because "its fun". What im planning is stickfigures to full body. I am fairly young (not really) and honestly dont know what to do with animation other than it "being fun"...

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