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PLasmaghost wrote:
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Welp, took me years to discover this thread. I wonder where I've been...


Sup everyone :P


Youve been here years and only have 70 something posts? Speak up my guy!



Well I got ductaped by Bad Internet and School XD. I hate em' both. Especially the first one.

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My gosh...so many pages....

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Holy cr*p PLasmaghost is back!? How have you been, friend? I heard you got married!? Congratulations!!! I wish the best for you and your husband :D














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@miketastic Yes and ive told my grandparents to do so as well.


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PLasmaghost wrote:
There was a small period were I would say "animation school is different for everybody, so I cant say whether or not to go" but for the last few years I'm staunchly against them. If you want to be an animator you honest to god best bet. Is to join a place like here and practice animating every single day while you work on ur drawing skills.

Going to College for animation is a lost cause in the US, plain and simple.


So from this would it be better to study something along the lines of animation like illustration or design? Yknow rather than never having time to animate seriously because you have to worry about other non-creative courses

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I think the non-creative courses are usually bird courses like psychology so they don't take a ton of time. Animation is a separate beast than illustration, especially the 3D stuff that most americans get hired for. If you're doing illustration and have the motivation to also animate enough to get an animation job, you were better off using that motivation to just teach yourself everything. Motivation is a big scary thing to a lot of people though.


@PLasmaghost I hear many people saying art school in general sucks because you can learn it better on your own without going into insane debt, and 84% working artists aren't even art grads... but what about the people who don't have the motivation to improve on their own without scary grades and debt as motivation? Is art school fit for those people? Or are those people not fit for the industry, because the only way to become a good artist is to go way beyond what an art school requires? I know 10% of art grads work as artists, do you think those were the few who were fully self-motivated?


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I thought for a long time about going to art school.
Gonna trust PLasmaghost on not doing so being a good idea.

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I think the non-creative courses are usually bird courses like psychology so they don't take a ton of time. Animation is a separate beast than illustration, especially the 3D stuff that most americans get hired for. If you're doing illustration and have the motivation to also animate enough to get an animation job, you were better off using that motivation to just teach yourself everything. Motivation is a big scary thing to a lot of people though.


@PLasmaghost I hear many people saying art school in general sucks because you can learn it better on your own without going into insane debt, and 84% working artists aren't even art grads... but what about the people who don't have the motivation to improve on their own without scary grades and debt as motivation? Is art school fit for those people? Or are those people not fit for the industry, because the only way to become a good artist is to go way beyond what an art school requires? I know 10% of art grads work as artists, do you think those were the few who were fully self-motivated?


If 4 years of your life, potentially $140,000+ of debt, and STILL no guarantee you'll get a job are all things you're willing to swallow just so you can be FORCED to DRAW in the hopes that you can just break into the industry, then yea Art School is for you I guess.

Again, these schools cant promise you anything, they can't even promise that when you leave their school you'll have enough skill to compete for jobs in the industry lmao. Imagine going through what I mentioned before, all that time, debt, sleepless nights, stress, etc and when its all said and done, you still suck? (which is the case for a significant number of art-school students). Imagine going through all that and you end up working at staples..

Granted, there's definitely a number of artists who went to art-school and ended up all the better for it and wouldn't have made it where they are(maybe 50% of that 10% you mentioned idk), had they not paid for that structure, but in my honest opinion. The cost-benefit analysis and flat odds just scream to me 'stay the hell away from those places!' they ask for too damn much and require too much time for "maybe"'s and "you need to make the most of it"'s.

A while ago I think it was either jombo or jeff who made me think about it, but motivation is its own skill. You'd be better off in the long run mastering that on your own anyway. If sitting down and just drawing for a few hours a day (something you're trying to make your life , the main skill you will be depending on to survive lmfao) is something you absolutely dread maybe you should just stay out the industry and keep art as a hobby, that kinda person sounds like they'd be miserable if they got what they wanted.

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Cool hearing it from you, thanks for the answer. The odds are stacked so hard against artists. I once thought art school could be my fallback if I failed engineering because art was "easy" and I was "good" at it; glad my parents didn't let me even consider it.


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